RHEL 7.4 - Recover broken desktop GUI

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Hi,
I have a fresh install of redhat 7.4-64bit on an Intel based system.

I've managed to corrupt the Gnome interface and ideally want to restore the defaults, like mentioned in this article under "reconfiguring the X server configuration":
[Fix graphical display issues] (https://access.redhat.com/solutions/5338)

How do I do that in RHEL 7?
Thanks in advance!

Symptoms:
When I run "startx" from the command line, it hangs for a moment, then I get a message to check the Xorg log and "serverauth.1845 does not exist."
There are no errors in Xorg log.
Background:
I originally installed the "Server with GUI" package. Then changed my mind, did a 'yum group remove' and installed "GNOME Desktop".

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Hi Don,

What you provided about the background : that was not a good idea ... I recommend to reinstall the system without a GUI and then install the desired Desktop group - it takes way less time than fixing the mess - and don't forget to switch to GUI mode afterwards.

sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target
sudo reboot

Cheers :)
Christian

Hi Christian, I've done the re-install without GUI. When I ran 'yum group list available' the GNOME Desktop was not listed. The problem with the 'Server with GUI' option is that I get a desktop with no menubar (not hidden and no left or right click menu option).

I can open a command terminal, but was hoping for more. Is there a command to install a menubar on the Redhat Server install? Thanks.

Hi Don,

Execute sudo yum group list | grep Desktop* and you'll see the name of the Desktop versions being available :

MATE Desktop
   Desktop
   Desktop Debugging and Performance Tools
   Desktop Platform
   Desktop Platform Development
   General Purpose Desktop
   KDE Desktop
   Remote Desktop Clients  

Execute sudo yum group info Desktop and sudo yum group info "Desktop Platform", decide what to install.

sudo yum group info Desktop
Group: Desktop
 Group-Id: basic-desktop
 Description: A minimal desktop that can also be used as a thin client.  

sudo yum group info "Desktop Platform"
Group: Desktop Platform
 Group-Id: desktop-platform
 Description: Supported libraries for the Enterprise Linux Desktop Platform.  

Regards,
Christian

Don, I just forgot to mention ... when you want to have a menu bar, you can choose "GNOME Classic" instead of "GNOME" on the GDM login screen, the modern GNOME 3 desktop environment comes with Activities instead.
Here you can see the difference between the two versions : Screenshot GNOME / Screenshot GNOME Classic

Regards,
Christian

Hello Don,

It is called the gnome-panel, and the rpm has the same name.

Look if there is a process called panel already: ps -ef |grep panel

It might got stuck.

kill the process-id and see if the panel gets rebuild.

Regards,

Jan Gerrit

Confused :) I'm getting no Desktop option (and it wasn't listed before I applied "Server with GUI"):

# yum group list
Loaded plugins: langpacks, product-id, search-disabled-repos, subscription-
              : manager
Installed Environment Groups:
   Server with GUI
Available Environment Groups:
   Minimal Install
   Infrastructure Server
   File and Print Server
   Basic Web Server
   Virtualization Host
Installed Groups:
   Graphical Administration Tools
   System Administration Tools
Available Groups:
   Compatibility Libraries
   Console Internet Tools
   Development Tools
   Legacy UNIX Compatibility
   Scientific Support
   Security Tools
   Smart Card Support
   System Management
Done

Hi Don, which edition of RHEL 7.4 exactly did you install ? The outputs I've showed you above are from the (no-cost) RHEL 7.4 Server Developer Edition with 'Server with GUI' installed during system installation via Anaconda installer.

Regards,
Christian

Hi Christian, I built an install USB stick with "rhel-server-7.4-x86_64-dvd.iso" and selected the minimal install. When I ran 'yum group list available' the GNOME Desktop was not listed, so I installed 'Server with GUI' instead. I guess I'm making some typical newbie mistake!

Okay Don, reinstall the system again and this time don't choose "minimal install" but select "Server with GUI" from the Anaconda installer. Please report back the results, you should see the desktop like shown in my screenshots. :)

Regards,
Christian

Hi Christian, I did the reinstall as you suggested. Now I've got a blank screen with no panel or icons or anything, just a pointer. If I right or left click on the desktop, I get nothing. I can access the command line via Ctl-Alt-F3. On a previous (RHEL 6.8) system a couple of years ago I had to use an xorg.conf file to disable an LVDS display port. This system is similar, using an intel mobile/laptop motherboard, which has the LVDS disabled in BIOS, but Linux systems seem to still try and output the display to it. I tried using the same xorg.conf file, but it made no difference. What am I missing? Thanks in advance!

Hi Don, maybe the GPU is the culprit. Do you have a dedicated AMD or NVIDIA graphics card ? In case yes : Boot the system by adding one of the following parameters at the end of the linux line (Select the RHEL entry in the GRUB menu and press the "E" key - add the parameter and then press Ctrl+X or F10 to boot) :
nouveau.modeset=0 (for NVIDIA graphics) or radeon.modeset=0 (for AMD graphics)

Regards,
Christian

No, this system has Intel onboard graphics. See image for extract from 'lspci' and 'lshw'.

Sorry for some reason the image isn't showing up. It's Intel 4th Gen, using i915 kernel driver. When it boots through to the desktop, the screen is blank and the mouse pointer is on an invisible/non existing screen to the left. My display is connected to a DVI port (Display Port, VGA, LVDS no connected).

Well Don, I'm about to running out of ideas - intel graphics are perfectly supported ... but what do you mean with "see image for extract from lspci and lshw" ? Anyway, what you can do is check every setting in BIOS / UEFI for something that prevents the graphics chip from displaying everything correctly.

Regards,
Christian

Strange Don, really ... I've tested an installation of RHEL 7.4 on a machine with intel i7 4th gen - not a single problem. Does it work when you connect the monitor to the VGA port or in case you have a HDMI port, if you connect it there ?

Regards,
Christian

Hey Don, I have another idea ... did you apply a security policy other than "default" in the Anaconda installer ? If you did, reinstall the system once again and select the "default" policy. Please report back the results. Good luck Don ! :)

Regards,
Christian

There's something not right in the GUI config.
This system boots through to a completely blank desktop. If I then force to the command line (Ctl-Alt-F3) that's OK. After that if I run 'startx' then I get a blank desktop but with a blue background and the right hand mouse click now works (no L-click or panel).
The group "Server with GUI" is available although I chose to install it:

# yum group list
Loaded plugins: langpacks, product-id, search-disabled-repos, subscription-
              : manager
There is no installed groups file.
Maybe run: yum groups mark convert (see man yum)
Available Environment Groups:
   Minimal Install
   Infrastructure Server
   File and Print Server
   Basic Web Server
   Virtualization Host
   Server with GUI
Available Groups:
   Compatibility Libraries
   Console Internet Tools
   Development Tools
   Graphical Administration Tools
   Legacy UNIX Compatibility
   Scientific Support
   Security Tools
   Smart Card Support
   System Administration Tools
   System Management
Done

Output of 'lshw -C display':

 *-display                 
       description: VGA compatible controller
       product: 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
       vendor: Intel Corporation
       physical id: 2
       bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
       version: 06
       width: 64 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       capabilities: msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
       configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
       resources: irq:39 memory:90000000-903fffff memory:80000000-8fffffff ioport:6000(size=64)

No Don, I think there is something wrong with your installation generally ... "Server with GUI" though being installed via Anaconda being listed in yum as available for whatever reason is "normal", compare the outputs from my setup :

sudo yum group list
Loaded plugins: langpacks, product-id, search-disabled-repos, subscription-manager
There is no installed groups file.
Maybe run: yum groups mark convert (see man yum)
Available Environment Groups:
   Minimal Install
   Infrastructure Server
   File and Print Server
   MATE Desktop
   Basic Web Server
   Virtualization Host
   Server with GUI
Available Groups:
   Additional Development
   Backup Client
   Backup Server
   Base
   CIFS file server
   Compatibility libraries
   Console internet tools
   Debugging Tools
   Desktop
   Desktop Debugging and Performance Tools
   Desktop Platform
   Desktop Platform Development
   Development tools
   Dial-up Networking Support
   Directory Client
   Directory Server
   E-mail server
   Eclipse
   Educational Software
   Electronic Lab
   Emacs
   FCoE Storage Client
   FTP server
   Fedora Packager
   Fonts
   General Purpose Desktop
   Graphical Administration Tools
   Graphics Creation Tools
   Hardware monitoring utilities
   Haskell
   Infiniband Support
   Input Methods
   Internet Applications
   Internet Browser
   Java Platform
   KDE Desktop
   Large Systems Performance
   Legacy UNIX compatibility
   Legacy X Window System compatibility
   Mainframe Access
   Messaging Client Support
   Messaging Server Support
   Milkymist
   MySQL Database client
   MySQL Database server
   NFS file server
   Network Infrastructure Server
   Network Storage Server
   Network file system client
   Networking Tools
   Office Suite and Productivity
   PHP Support
   Performance Tools
   Perl Support
   PostgreSQL Database client
   PostgreSQL Database server
   Print Server
   Printing client
   Remote Desktop Clients
   SNMP Support
   Scientific support
   Security Tools
   Server Platform
   Server Platform Development
   Smart card support
   Storage Availability Tools
   System Management
   System administration tools
   TeX support
   Technical Writing
   TurboGears application framework
   Virtualization
   Virtualization Client
   Virtualization Platform
   Virtualization Tools
   Web Server
   Web Servlet Engine
   Web-Based Enterprise Management
   X Window System
   Xfce
   iSCSI Storage Client
Done  
sudo lshw -C display
  *-display                 
       description: 3D controller
       product: GM107M [GeForce GTX 860M]
       vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
       physical id: 0
       bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
       version: a2
       width: 64 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list rom
       configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
       resources: irq:28 memory:f6000000-f6ffffff memory:e0000000-efffffff memory:f0000000-f1ffffff ioport:e000(size=128) memory:f7000000-f707ffff
  *-display
       description: VGA compatible controller
       product: 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
       vendor: Intel Corporation
       physical id: 2
       bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
       version: 06
       width: 64 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       capabilities: msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
       configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
       resources: irq:29 memory:f7400000-f77fffff memory:d0000000-dfffffff ioport:f000(size=64) memory:c0000-dffff  

Regards,
Christian

I think this problem is both hardware and software related.
For further testing, I connected both DVI and DP displays. This motherboard has onboard headers for LVDS and VGA, but I've no way of connecting to them ATM. There is still this extra 'missing' display output on the left, which is probably one of those I can't connect to.
Looking at the output of 'xrandr' it seems I might have to write an xorg.conf file to fix the display output.
The other question is how to get the Gnome panel up.

$ xrandr
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 5760 x 1440, maximum 8192 x 8192
eDP-1 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 510mm x 286mm
   1920x1080     60.16*+
   1400x1050     59.98  
   1280x1024     60.02  
   1280x960      60.00  
   1024x768      60.04    60.00  
   960x720       60.00  
   928x696       60.05  
   896x672       60.01  
   800x600       60.00    60.32    56.25  
   700x525       59.98  
   640x512       60.02  
   640x480       60.00    59.94  
   512x384       60.00  
   400x300       60.32    56.34  
   320x240       60.05  
VGA-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
DP-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
HDMI-1 connected 1280x1024+1920+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 338mm x 270mm
   1280x1024     60.02*+  75.02  
   1152x864      75.00  
   1024x768      75.03    70.07    60.00  
   832x624       74.55  
   800x600       72.19    75.00    60.32  
   640x480       75.00    72.81    59.94  
   720x400       70.08  
DP-2 connected 2560x1440+3200+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 597mm x 336mm
   2560x1440     59.95*+
   1920x1080     60.00    50.00    59.94  
   1920x1080i    60.00    50.00    59.94  
   1680x1050     59.95  
   1280x1024     75.02    60.02  
   1440x900      59.89  
   1280x960      60.00  
   1280x720      60.00    50.00    59.94  
   1024x768      75.03    70.07    60.00  
   832x624       74.55  
   800x600       72.19    75.00    60.32    56.25  
   720x576       50.00  
   720x480       60.00    59.94  
   640x480       75.00    72.81    66.67    60.00    59.94  
   720x400       70.08  
HDMI-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

Question Don, does the desktop work properly on the built-in laptop display when you boot with disconnected external monitor ? Although that still wouldn't explain why all those available groups are not offered, right ? :)

Regards,
Christian

Very puzzling, as you said:

Although that still wouldn't explain why all those available groups are not offered, right ? :)

Do I need to reinstall again?

I suggest yes Don, reinstall the system once again ... unfortunately I am not able to assist you while doing it. Please double-check every setting and every step in the Anaconda installer. I hope we can get this thing done in the end. :)

Regards,
Christian

Hi Christian, So, starting over, I erased the target disk using a live ubuntu USB stick.
Before running the install, I verified the USB installer (under choose source), "rhel-server-7.4-x86_64-dvd.iso" valid AOK.

Then selected to install "Server with GUI" and the "default" security policy as you recommended.
The system is successfully registered and subscribed.

The symptoms are much as before.
When I run "startx" from the command line, it hangs for a moment, then I get a message "serverauth.7845 does not exist."
If I set "sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target" and restart, I get a blank desktop with no panel or icons or anything, just a pointer.
If I right or left click on the desktop, I get nothing. I can access the command line via Ctl-Alt-F3.
After that if I run 'startx' then I get a blank desktop but with a blue background and the right hand mouse click now works (no L-click or panel).

I still have only an abbreviated group list:

# yum group list
Loaded plugins: langpacks, product-id, search-disabled-repos, subscription-
              : manager
There is no installed groups file.
Maybe run: yum groups mark convert (see man yum)
Available Environment Groups:
   Minimal Install
   Infrastructure Server
   File and Print Server
   Basic Web Server
   Virtualization Host
   Server with GUI
Available Groups:
   Compatibility Libraries
   Console Internet Tools
   Development Tools
   Graphical Administration Tools
   Legacy UNIX Compatibility
   Scientific Support
   Security Tools
   Smart Card Support
   System Administration Tools
   System Management
Done

Thought I should check the repolist:

# yum repolist
Loaded plugins: langpacks, product-id, search-disabled-repos, subscription-
              : manager
repo id                           repo name                               status
rhel-7-server-rpms/7Server/x86_64 Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 Server (RPMs 17,249
repolist: 17,249

This is driving me crazy! Shall I just raise a support case? Thx.

Hi Don,

Please enable the additional extras and optional channels and recheck whether yum shows all groups :

sudo subscription-manager repos --enable rhel-7-server-extras-rpms
sudo subscription-manager repos --enable rhel-7-server-optional-rpms

sudo yum update
sudo yum group list

I'm not sure if the customer support can help you with the graphics - because this is hardware related.

Regards,
Christian

This is starting to look a bit healthier!

$ sudo yum update
Loaded plugins: langpacks, product-id, search-disabled-repos, subscription-
              : manager
rhel-7-server-extras-rpms                                | 3.4 kB     00:00     
rhel-7-server-optional-rpms                              | 3.5 kB     00:00     
rhel-7-server-rpms                                       | 3.5 kB     00:00     
(1/3): rhel-7-server-extras-rpms/x86_64/group              |  104 B   00:00     
(2/3): rhel-7-server-extras-rpms/x86_64/updateinfo         | 202 kB   00:00     
(3/3): rhel-7-server-extras-rpms/x86_64/primary_db         | 292 kB   00:00     
No packages marked for update

However, the group list is still has much AWOL:

$ sudo yum group list
Loaded plugins: langpacks, product-id, search-disabled-repos, subscription-
              : manager
There is no installed groups file.
Maybe run: yum groups mark convert (see man yum)
Available Environment Groups:
   Minimal Install
   Infrastructure Server
   File and Print Server
   Basic Web Server
   Virtualization Host
   Server with GUI
Available Groups:
   Compatibility Libraries
   Console Internet Tools
   Development Tools
   Graphical Administration Tools
   Legacy UNIX Compatibility
   Scientific Support
   Security Tools
   Smart Card Support
   System Administration Tools
   System Management
Done

Is there a clue in "There is no installed groups file"?

Well Don, to be honest, I am really running out of ideas - but I want to do you a favor and thus created a presentation showing every step of the installation process, so that you can compare it with the steps you have made and sort out every possible potential root cause ... I hope it helps. :) Please note that I have used exactly the same installation file.

Presentation / Slides -> Red Hat Enterprise Linux Installation Guide

Regards,
Christian

Don, please report back if you found any (substantial) difference in the way we installed the system.

Regards,
Christian

Is there a clue in "There is no installed groups file"?

No Don, I don't think so, because you didn't install any group after the system installation.
Please read this discussion on the CentOS forums : yum - about "no installed groups file"

Regards,
Christian

Hi Don,

When all attempts to get the intel graphics working fail, maybe these intel graphics drivers can solve the problem ... just an idea ... :)

Regards,
Christian

Hi Christian,
Thanks for the powerpoint. As you may have guessed, there was no real difference in the install process (I didn't
choose German, and I chose auto-format for the disk).

I'm still having the same issues and will try the link for the intel graphics fix.
Will report back with an update. Thx

You're welcome Don! :) Yes, that's what I indeed assumed ... okay, now we've got this sorted out.

Regards,
Christian

Hi Christian,
I tried the intel graphics fix (closest fit is 64bit Fedora v2.0.6) you suggested, but unfortunately the tool's not compatible.
I'll keep looking, there must be better Intel graphics support, although Linux is usually 'behind the curve.'
This is only 4th Gen hardware, so not the newest! If Ubuntu can do it I'm sure Redhat can (maybe too optomistic) :)

Thanks for the response Don,

"If Ubuntu can do it I'm sure Redhat can" - you are not too optimistic : Red Hat can !
As I told you before I have tested RHEL 7.4 on a 4th gen intel and everything works.
By the way, the same is valid for CentOS 7.4, fedora 26 and Ubuntu 17.04 of course.

Regards,
Christian

This is what Intel has to say about it on https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/graphics-drivers/000005520.html Graphics Drivers for Linux*

Last Reviewed: 11-Jul-2017

Article ID: 000005520

Linux users

Most Linux-based* distributions include Intel® Graphics Drivers. Contact your operating system vendor (OSV) and use their distribution for driver access and support.

Linux developers

Intel Graphics Drivers for Linux* are available in source form. The Intel Graphics for Linux site describes other ways you can obtain drivers.

So first see if there is a driver from Red Hat.

I absolutely agree with you Jan Gerrit, best option is to use the built-in drivers.
That's why I said : "When all attempts to get the intel graphics working fail ..." :)

Regards,
Christian

First see are we all talking about the same RHEL? Server versus Workstation?

Hi Jan Gerrit,

Don installed the RHEL Server edition using the rhel-server-7.4-x86_64-dvd.iso media and he has
the rhel-7-server-extras-rpms / rhel-7-server-optional-rpms / rhel-7-server-rpms repos enabled.

Regards,
Christian

One thing that confuses me a little bit, Don : In the beginning you said "I've managed to corrupt the GNOME interface." This means that the intel drivers must have worked - right ? And then you said "I did a yum group remove and installed GNOME Desktop". This means that the group must have been available - right ? What was the difference in your approaches between the first (successful) installation and the failing reinstall attempts ?

Regards,
Christian

Hi Christian, Sorry "I did a yum group remove and installed GNOME Desktop" was a misleading comment.
It's true that I ran the relevant commands to perform those tasks, but in was in vain hope, since for whatever reason "GNOME Desktop" hasn't actually been listed as available or installed at any point on this system. At the time I posted that comment, I thought I'd done something to corrupt Gnome. As you said "I have tested RHEL 7.4 on a 4th gen intel and everything works." So my question is, how to find out what is wrong or different about this system that means the GUI is broken and much of the group software repo is unavailable?

Hi Don,

Unfortunately I have no idea what else could be done from my side. The main difference is that we have different hardware, so what works on my machine mustn't necessarily work on your machine. To further troubleshoot your issues I would need to sit in front of your machine, which isn't possible. Honestly, I have to say that I nearly never have seen graphics issues with only intel drivers being in use, most of the graphics problems occur on machines with hybrid graphics. Sorry Don, as you may have noticed, I've really tried my best to help you fixing the issues, but at this point I'm getting stuck.

Regards,
Christian

Hi Jan Gerrit,

Can you please have a deeper look into this discussion ? I've already suggested what should have solved the problems. As I know from your generally helpful and useful contributions, you are having a huge amount of advanced experience and often are having great additional ideas. Maybe you have one in this case too ? That would be very kind of you - thank you very much in advance ! :)

Regards,
Christian

Hi Christian, Thank you for your efforts, all much appreciated.
I've partly solved the trouble, in as far as now having a working desktop, see How to disable LVDS display However I'm still none the wiser as to why much of the group software repo is unavailable. Best regards,
Don.

You're welcome Don, great that you've found a workaround solving the display issue.
Regarding the group software packages, which subscription exactly did you attach ?
I am asking because Red Hat provides different software depending on subscription.
So this might be the explanation for the differences in the availability of packages. :)

Regards,
Christian

Don, I am having the Red Hat Enterprise Linux Developer Suite subscription attached, which includes this software :

Red Hat Software Collections (for RHEL Server)
Red Hat Container Development Kit
MRG Realtime
Red Hat EUCJP Support (for RHEL Server) - Extended Update Support
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server - Extended Update Support
Red Hat Beta
Oracle Java (for RHEL Server) - Extended Update Support
Red Hat Enterprise Linux High Performance Networking (for RHEL Compute Node)
dotNET on RHEL Beta (for RHEL Server)
Red Hat Enterprise Linux High Performance Networking (for RHEL Server) - Extended Update Support
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Resilient Storage (for RHEL Server)
Oracle Java (for RHEL Server)
Red Hat Container Images
Red Hat Enterprise Linux for Real Time
dotNET on RHEL (for RHEL Server)
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Atomic Host
Red Hat S-JIS Support (for RHEL Server) - Extended Update Support
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Scalable File System (for RHEL Server)
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Resilient Storage (for RHEL Server) - Extended Update Support
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Atomic Host Beta
Red Hat Enterprise Linux High Availability (for RHEL Server) - Extended Update Support
Red Hat Container Images Beta
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Scalable File System (for RHEL Server) - Extended Update Support
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Load Balancer (for RHEL Server) - Extended Update Support
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server
Red Hat Enterprise Linux High Availability (for RHEL Server)
Red Hat Software Collections Beta (for RHEL Server)
Red Hat Enterprise Linux Load Balancer (for RHEL Server)
Red Hat Enterprise Linux High Performance Networking (for RHEL Server)
Red Hat Developer Toolset (for RHEL Server)  

Now compare your subscription with my subscription and in case that you have another one, everything is alright. :)

Regards,
Christian

Hi Christian,
I have "Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server Entry Level." Can you confirm this list is correct?

$ sudo yum group list
Loaded plugins: langpacks, product-id, search-disabled-repos, subscription-
              : manager
There is no installed groups file.
Maybe run: yum groups mark convert (see man yum)
Available Environment Groups:
   Minimal Install
   Infrastructure Server
   File and Print Server
   Basic Web Server
   Virtualization Host
   Server with GUI
Available Groups:
   Compatibility Libraries
   Console Internet Tools
   Development Tools
   Graphical Administration Tools
   Legacy UNIX Compatibility
   Scientific Support
   Security Tools
   Smart Card Support
   System Administration Tools
   System Management
Done

Don, RHEL Server EL, that's the point : of course you don't get the same software as in the Developer edition.
The good thing is that we could sort it out now and that everything is working correctly, right as expected ... :)

Regards,
Christian

Hi Christian, So am I right in thinking that the options for "Desktop Platform" and "KDE" aren't supported in "Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server Entry Level?"

Yes Don, you are using a server product which hence is mainly focused on server orientated solutions and usage.
I think if you would have subscribed to the desktop or workstation edition, other desktop environments would be available. For official confirmation you can contact the sales support team of course. First I assumed that we were using the same subscription, otherwise I would have told you earlier that the software sources most probably are matching your subscription. The proof that everything works correctly should be, that yum group list returns offerings for environment groups and groups. I think that if yum was broken, nothing would be offered at all ... :)

Regards,
Christian

All,

There seems something wrong with yum group list in RHEL 7.4. If I run yum group list or yum grouplist I do not see a KDE group on a RHEL 7.4 Server installation.

If I run yum groupinstall KDE I get a very long list of rpms to install. About 1.1G of software to install on a server without X-Windows System installed.

Regards,

Jan Gerrit

WOW ... that's really a thing Jan Gerrit,

Thanks for providing this information. :)
As you can see in the output from my system above, KDE Desktop is offered in RHEL 7.4 Server Developer Edition.
So the issue seems to occur randomly ?

Regards,
Christian

https://linuxconfig.org/installation-of-kde-desktop-manager-on-rhel-7-linux-server was the trigger to do the test.

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