Exact product and build requirements
Hi all, I have a POC for a client which on the surface is relatively simple. I need to model a process in jBPM and show the business rules integratio, with the repository etc. I then need to integrate this process with the JBoss ESB and walk the client through the entire process from modelling staright through to final deployment. Easy enough right? Not really. JBoss Developer Studio 6 does not handle ESB/jBPM development etc and while I am happy to use the web based process developer the problem is which exact stack am I looking for?
Here's what I think it is:
jBRMS --> for the jBPM and the Guvnor design and build
JBoss SOA Platform 5 --> for the JBoss AS and JBoss ESB components
JBoss DEV Studio 6 (I already have this)
Please would someone provide me the exact links and requirements for me to proceed. When delving into the jBPM 5 Developer guide and the JBoss ESB beginners guide books, both rely on the jboss.org downloads and functionality. What I want is the equivalent stack from RH. The local vendor (Obsidian) that I am collaborating with is in the process of organising the necessary development licenses etc, but needs to know the exact stack for which I need this licensing.
Thus far I have literally downloaded GB's of software from both RH and jboss.org/sourceforge in order to get my head around what can be done etc. However I am now ready to jump in and begin development and I want it ALL to be done on RH Enterprise Middleware as this is a project requirement.
Is this doable or is the reality that regardless of the project I will have to rely on some bits and pieces from jboss.org that RH do not cater for?
regards
ed
Responses
Hi Edward
You're correct. JBoss Developer Studio 6 doesn't contain any plugins for ESB, jBPM development. This is because of the change in the underlying Eclipse version and the Tooling engineers have yet to release the tooling for this.
In the meantime, what I would suggest you use is JBoss Developer Studio 5, which you can download from [1] and update the SOA Tooling from within JBoss Central. Alternatively, you can download the offline zips from the same location [1].
I hope this helps.
Regards,
Mustafa
Ed,
I would contact your sales representative at Red Hat and talk about options. From your writing I don't recognize the issue. JBDS5 is more than capable of providing tooling to SOA-P 5 (JBossESB) and BRMS 5.3 (jBPM 5). However, I think you are misunderstanding the purpose of BRMS as we really don't need BRMS if you plan to do all the development of processes and rules from the IDE.
Your concerns about the next versions and road maps of SOA-P is definitely something your sales representative at Red Hat can help you with. You're quite right that Switchyard isn't production ready yet - but it is out there and useful for POCs. If you want to show proof of concepts and if you are looking at a 18 month adoption time, then SOA-P 6 would definitely be more than ready by then. This is one of the advantages of having access to the community versions - they're great for evals and early adapters to get started.
Btw. FUSE is more than production ready. So I would be interested in hearing how you got to that conclussion. JBoss FUSE doesn't include EAP - however there are lots of examples where you won't need a full application server. Again, I would bring this up with your sales presentative. We'll be happy to have a talk with you and your team about your product options (I work with Red Hat pre-sales).
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