Can't get seahorse to display anything gpg / pgp related

I just span up a new RH 8.3 server, gnome server with gui

I installed seahorse, but theres not a single pgp / gpg thing anywhere!

Its got gpg2 and all the default stuff. gpg command works, I can create keys, see them with gpg -k and gpg-K yet seahorse can't do anything, I can create only 4 types and pgp isn't one.

Why does a clean skin install not work with gpg, what packages is the base install missing?

Just annoying as there's no keys according to seahorse. I installed evolution and it doesn't see any pgp keys at all...

Worked perfectly on centos-7 with a clean install.

Cheers,

David